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lavey

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2011-10-21 23-06-59

Thoughts? G'morning. Heard a situation and wanted to get otherses take(s) on it: Speech-Making Class x: Professor REQUIRED women wear skirts... I thought the idea was as ludacris [sic] as REQUIRING the men to wear kilts. While I totally "get" the "wear a suit" thing, oughtn't it be a ladies' choice whether or not that suit is a pantsuit or skirted? Apparently, said prof provided a rationale along the lines of, "It's more professional... it's a 'standard,' for example, for interviews... and it is less intimidating for men, and since this is to be a Persuasive Speech (yada, yada, yada)..." YET, I could not help but think that is an archaic requirement and very sexist. (And I am a skirt lovin'-femme!) It's just that... well, HELL if I am gonna be told what to wear (by a man or a woman), or that I must wear a skirt if my preference and comfort (and the weather) dictate otherwise. And even if I should CHOOSE to wear a skirt, I don't like for my 'fellow' female classmates to have to do by compulsion what I do by choice. Naw mean? Now, I was not the student of this class, and although the other women expressed their ire, apparently they ultimately relented with their objection(s) and obliged (indulged, maybe?) this professor. What do you(s) think? And further (Part II of this convoluted question), is this something worthy of taking this professor to task? Or something to just get over with, get the 'A', pass the assignment and the class(saving strength for when it really is going to matter/count)? My mind wants to know.
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wickard

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2011-11-26 18-54-47

Old fashioned, out of touch and OBNOXIOUS I work in a professional environment, that is fairly conserative, and it completely acceptable for women to wear a pant suit. Nothing wrong with wearing a skirt, but the days of that being the standard are over. As for wearing a skirt to be persuasive - that is the speakers perogative. Perhaps they don't want to be that PERSUASIVE. All around - I think the prof is old school and I think he should be taken to task - if you dare.
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2012-03-08 10-22-38

*blood boils* that is completely sexist of him to require women to wear a skirt. Less intimidating to men? If men are intimidated by a woman in pants they need to get a new set of testes. His "rationale" is completely archaic. It is not more "professional" to wear a skirt than a suit. If anything, it's more professional to wear dress pants and flats because wouldn't it be less distracting than showing skin? Aswell, skirts require pantyhose in a professional setting. These are VERY uncomfortable. Skirts also require uncomfortable shoes. He is totally forcing his idea of gender rolls on the women in your class. I'd be furious. I am pretty pissed hearing about it, frankly. I'd just show up in a nice pant suit and if he docked me any marks at all I'd take it over his head. If you're the organizing type, maybe all the women could do this. Kind of like the "Vagina" incident where highschool girld were suspended for using the word "Vagina" in a speech.
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What she said!
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  • mame

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    2014-06-15 11-39-28

    are the guys required to wear ties and jackets? not that it justifies it, i'm just curious.
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    Yes, and to further clarify... Yes. Everyone was required to wear suits. For women, skirts were required. For men, jackets and ties. To clarify: I am not IN the class... this was the case with a friend of mine. She related the story to me. She, like all the women, relented and wore skirts (yesh, with stockings and shoes)... Whaddya gonna do? Not everyone can take every issue to task. I prolly would have. BUT then, I am not working full-time, with (essentially a single Mom), putting myself through school (full-time) in order to better my circumstances and be better able to provide... Most of the students, I imagine, are in similar situations, give or take a facet. Thanks, tho. I wasn't sure who was "archaic" in thought. Me or this professor. PS I'd like to see him in a kilt (or even a Roman centurian uniform) and see how he feels.
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    2015-10-10 16-35-55

    I think it was the professor's preference in that matter and he's just the very very old school type or like everyone said archaic. It's really is ridiculous. Anyways, joining a toastmaster club is much more beneficial than a speech class. You could always advice your friend to drop the speech class and join a toastmaster club. You learn a lot about public speaking in a supportive environment in the club. I'm inand I think it has improved my public-speaking skills so far in the few months that I've been in there.
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